711.933/187

The Assistant Secretary of State (Johnson) to the British Chargé (Campbell)

My Dear Mr. Campbell: I have delayed somewhat overlong replying to your note of November eighteenth,32 chiefly because of the pressure of events.

I wish to thank you for your kindness in furnishing me with a copy of the proposals of His Majesty’s Government for dealing with the question of extraterritoriality in China.32 I enclose, in the form of an Aide Mémoire, the comments which the Department has to make upon these proposals and which you will wish to communicate to your Government. Copies of both memoranda will be telegraphed to our Legation at Peking. As you will observe from this comment, we have informed the Government of China that we are prepared to enter into negotiations, “when convenient to the Chinese Government,” which shall have as their object the devising of a method for the gradual relinquishment of extraterritorial rights either as to designated territorial areas or as to particular kinds of jurisdiction, or as to both, provided that such gradual relinquishment proceeds at the same time as steps are taken and improvements are achieved by the Chinese Government in the enactment of laws based on modern concepts of jurisprudence.

I may say that we desire to cooperate with and work with the other Governments in this matter and desire to be informed of progress made by the other Governments in any negotiations which they may undertake as we shall endeavor at all times to keep the other interested Governments informed of what progress we may make.

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This Government has already had conversations with the Chinese Minister here in Washington on the subject, although no definite progress has been made. We therefore feel that we must continue such conversations here, if the Chinese Government so desires.

For the information of your Government, I enclose a copy of a draft of a proposal which we are considering for possible presentation to the Chinese Minister here in connection with these conversations.34 You will note that the idea upon which it is based is that of applying Chinese law in American courts in China after such laws have been examined by a commission to be set up. This is one of several possible proposals which we have under consideration.

Very truly yours,

Nelson Trusler Johnson
[Enclosure]

The Department of State to the British Embassy

Aide Mémoire

Careful consideration has been given to the Aide Mémoire left by the British Chargé with Mr. Johnson on November 18, 1929, and the Department of State has the following comments to make in regard to the principles which in the opinion of His Majesty’s Government should govern any attempt to discover a solution of the problem of the abolition of extraterritoriality.

1. The American Government is happy to find itself in agreement with His Majesty’s Government in the view that “the abolition of extraterritoriality must be a gradual and evolutionary process, and the extent of the initial modifications that can be made in the present system and the rate of subsequent progress must be determined by the extent to which the Chinese Government accept this proposition and the nature of the safeguards that they may be willing to erect at each stage of the process.”

In its note to the National Government of the Republic of China of August 10, 1929 the American Government stated that it would be ready “if the suggestion should meet with the approval of the Chinese Government, to participate in negotiations which would have as their object the devising of a method for the gradual relinquishment of extraterritorial rights either as to designated territorial areas or as to particular kinds of jurisdiction, or as to both, provided that such gradual relinquishment proceeds at the same time as steps are taken and improvements are achieved by the Chinese Government in the enactment and effective enforcement of laws based on modern concepts of jurisprudence.” And again on November [Page 637] 1, 1929 the American Government restated its position concluding with the following:

“However, assuming that the Chinese Government has not failed to take into consideration the main points set forth in my note of August 10, and desiring as far as possible to meet the wishes of the Chinese Government, my Government is prepared to enter into negotiations, when convenient to the Chinese Government, which shall have as their object, as indicated in the concluding paragraph of my note of August 10, ‘the devising of a method for the gradual relinquishment of extraterritorial rights either as to designated territorial areas or as to particular kinds of jurisdiction, or as to both, provided that such gradual relinquishment proceeds at the same time as steps are taken and improvements are achieved by the Chinese Government in the enactment and effective enforcement of laws based on modern concepts of jurisprudence.’”

2. The American Government finds itself disposed to concur in the objections raised by His Majesty’s Government to the proposal that extraterritorial jurisdiction be dealt with by geographic areas. It agrees that there is better chance of success in dealing with the matter by categories of cases but feels that it may be that in the course of any negotiations that may take place it may be desirable to discuss both principles.

In dealing with the question by categories of cases the American government concurs in the belief of His Majesty’s Government that the method of transfer of jurisdiction should be in the general order (1) civil cases, (2) criminal cases and (3) personal status matters.

3. The American Government is giving consideration to the question of the possibility of applying Chinese law progressively to controversies involving American citizens as defendants through the instrumentality of the American consular courts and the United States Court for China. This suggestion was made by the Commission on Extraterritoriality. The American Government agrees with His Majesty’s Government that this method would help to bring to the attention of the Chinese Government the necessity of adopting codes and of making them universally applicable throughout China.

4. The American Government agrees with the view of His Majesty’s Government that in applying the principle of transfer by categories of cases the most that can be envisaged as practicable in the near future is the transfer of jurisdiction in civil cases. This Government finds it somewhat difficult, however, to understand how this is to be accomplished and still pursue the policy outlined in paragraph eight of the Aide Mémoire of His Majesty’s Government, namely, that suits between British subjects should continue to be heard in British courts. The American Government since February 23, 1927 has not been insisting upon the right of American citizens [Page 638] to be represented in Chinese courts by American consular officers thus putting into effect the recommendation of the Commission on Extraterritoriality on that point and is urging its citizens to take their cases into the modern courts of China. Thus if there is to be any further step in regard to American civil cases it must be in the direction of placing such cases within the jurisdiction of the modern Chinese courts.

5. The American Government concurs with the view of His Majesty’s Government that if and when jurisdiction in any class or classes of civil cases is to be transferred to a Chinese Court it would appear to be more satisfactory that that court should be a modern court officially organized under the existing system of judicial administration and properly staffed, rather than a special court created to meet the situation.

6. The American Government agrees with the views of His Majesty’s Government that it will be necessary to examine carefully the Chinese codes before any decision can be reached in regard to the transfer of any class of cases subject to such codes.

7. The American Government is happy to find itself generally in agreement with the views expressed by His Majesty’s Government in regard to the question of safeguards. While it is not as yet prepared to commit itself to any particular view in regard to the employment by the Chinese Government of foreign judges, the question is being considered.

8. The views of His Majesty’s Government in regard to suits between British subjects have been discussed in connection with paragraph four. The American Government would like to be further enlightened in regard to this question.

9. The American Government would be interested in any suggestions that His Majesty’s Government may have to make looking to the protection of foreign shipping and the question of the enforcement of Chinese taxation.

10. The American Government feels doubt with regard to any attempt to distinguish between types of criminal cases feeling that abuses are likely to be perpetrated to as great an extent in petty cases as in others. Consideration is being given, however, to this suggestion.

11. The American Government agrees with His Majesty’s Government that the administrative aspect of extraterritoriality will need careful consideration and would welcome any suggestions that His Majesty’s Government may have to make as to the nature of the stipulations that should be included in any understanding intended to protect aliens against domiciliary visits and vexatious inspections made for the purpose of collecting taxes and enforcing regulations.

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  3. For text of proposal, see annex 2 to Assistant Secretary Johnson’s memorandum of December 21, 1929, p. 657.