130. Memorandum of Conversation0
SUBJECT
- Cuba
PARTICIPANTS
- The Secretary
- Mr. McSweeney, Director, Office of Soviet Union Affairs
- Mikhail A. Menshikov, Soviet Ambassador
- Georgi M. Kornienko, Counselor, Soviet Embassy
The Secretary said he wished, on behalf of the President, to deliver to the Ambassador the Presidentʼs reply to the statement from Chairman Khrushchev to the President. He referred to the fact that Khrushchevʼs statement had been made public and said that the Presidentʼs statement would also be publicized. He then handed the Presidentʼs letter to Chairman Khrushchev to the Ambassador. (Attached)1
The Ambassador said that he would transmit the communication to his government, adding that personally he did not think it answered the question posed.
The Secretary said that if we were to understand that the Soviet Government planned to act in accordance with the doctrine set forth in the December 1960 communique of the Communist leaders,2 then it is inevitable that there will be serious trouble. We believe that it is in the interest of both peoples and governments to seek out solutions which will insure peace, but this cannot be a one-sided effort—we must find the means of recognizing the real issues between us and bring our positions into adjustment. The Soviet Government must understand the importance to the United States of peace and well-being in this hemisphere. The Presidentʼs reply is directed toward that point.
Ambassador Menshikov said the Soviet Government will never recognize intervention in the affairs of other countries as indicating a desire to have peace. Such intervention, he said, would only produce the contrary of peace.
The Secretary said that he could not accept a lecture from the Soviet Union regarding intervention, having in mind the activities all over the world since 1945 of the Soviet Union.
Ambassador Menshikov said that the Soviet Union had never intervened in the affairs of other countries—that this is a strict policy of the Soviet Government which has been followed consistently. He said the Soviet Government cannot fail to notice the introduction of forces into other countries to suppress the freedom and independence of those countries.
The Secretary asked if Mr. Menshikov were referring to Hungary.
[Page 283]The Ambassador said he referred to Cuba. As regards Hungary, he said, the Secretary should know what happened there. Without going into details, he would only reaffirm that in the Hungarian affair the Soviet Union had been asked by the legitimate government to help suppress counter-revolution. This the Soviet Union did.
The Secretary indicated that further conversation seemed unnecessary and the Ambassador left.
- Source: Department of State, Central Files, 737.00/4-1861. Confidential. Drafted by McSweeney.↩
- The text of the attached letter was released to the press immediately after it was conveyed to Ambassador Menshikov. It is also printed in Department of State Bulletin, May 8, 1961, pp. 661-662. Ambassador Stevenson read Kennedyʼs reply to Khrushchev during the evening session of debate in the First Committee on April 18. (U.N. doc. A/C.1/5R.1154) For Khrushchevʼs letter, see Document 117.↩
- Reference is to the manifesto issued from Moscow on December 6, 1960, by the leaders of 81 national and regional Communist parties, which proclaimed the unity of all Communists in a continuing struggle against capitalism. (The New York Times, December 7, 1960)↩
- Unclassified.↩
- Printed from a copy that indicates President Kennedy signed the original.↩