237. Memorandum From the Secretary of Defenseʼs Assistant for Special
Operations (Lansdale)
to the Secretary of Defense (McNamara)1
Washington, July 7,
1962.
SUBJECT
Here is a way of getting a sharper picture of how we’re doing in Vietnam.
The “way” uses the largest U.S. resources in Vietnam. Defense resources
under your control.
Attached are a list of questions. Most of them concern the “x-factors” of
the real war in Vietnam. Some are vital to true measurements, others are
significant as collateral. They are in addition to basic needs on enemy
order-of-battle, casualties, lost weapons, etc.
Inexpert use of these questions in Vietnam can be harmful to our cause.
If they become widely known among Vietnamese, as being of real official
concern to the U.S. military, the Vietnamese could take this as a U.S.
loss of faith in the Vietnamese armed forces, government, or people;
they could open a bad, political Pandoraʼs box among Vietnamese or in
our relations with them.
Thus, it is recommended that the questions be used in the following way:
- a.
- The use of the questions should be a staff function of MAC-V;
General Harkins could
have a small team (2 or 3 U.S. military) to handle this; they
should be good listeners, good writers, who know Vietnam.
- b.
- The questions should be asked only of Americans who have been
out in the field, who have had first-hand experience, and who
are judged to have gotten close to the Vietnamese; out of
thousands of Americans, 50 or 100 might be selected; this should
be repeated periodically.
- c.
- The questions should be asked at a time and place where these
“field Americans” can reflect upon them amply; if our best
Americans in the field are given brief R&R leaves in Saigon, Dalat, Hongkong, Clark,
or Baguio, it would be wise to add extra time and then question
them there.
- d.
- The questioners should do the work, not those questioned;
verbal give and take can get better results than making field
men write down what they know.
- e.
- Since conditions vary from locality to locality, it is
important to get a geographic fix on each locality reported
upon; results could be translated on charts or maps, after
analysis; every significant locality should be reported
on.
In Vietnam, we are up against an enemy who uses Mao Tse-tungʼs tactics.
The text-book rule of imposing our will on enemy forces needs further
interpretation. The real contest is to win over the people on the land,
which includes protecting them. My questions are to this point.
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VIETNAM QUESTIONS FOR U.S. MILITARY
Villagers
(Think of people you have seen, talked to in specific villages and
hamlets, usually away from military camps.)
- 1.
- Where was the village? About how many houses and people? What
type of houses? How do people earn a living? Were the market
places (or shops) busy or vacant?
- 2.
- What was the villagers’ attitude towards the Vietnamese
troops? Friendly, indifferent, sullen, afraid, hostile? Where
were the children, outdoors or kept hidden indoors? Where were
the young women?
- 3.
- What does it cost the villagers to give information to the
troops? Are they taken in custody to be questioned for several
days? If so, who takes care of their families in their absence?
What happens to these villagers afterwards? Are they protected?
Do the VC exact reprisal? Are
there any rewards for giving information? What? Do the children
give information?
- 4.
- Was there a village defense organization? How do you size it
up? What was the attitude of the troops towards it? It towards
the troops?
- 5.
- If troops stopped in the town, what happened? Were the troops
quartered in homes? If so, were families removed? Remunerated?
How? Was food obtained from the people? For the unit or
individual military? Was there fair compensation? Was it given
willingly or unwillingly? Were people happy to have the troops
there, uneasy, or indifferent?
- 6.
- What measures did the Vietnamese troops take to get along with
the villagers? Do you think these were effective? What do you
think they should do? What was the attitude of officers and
troops towards the villagers?
- 7.
- How many caches of VC arms,
equipment, propaganda were found in the village? VC personnel? Did villagers help
uncover? Why?
- 8.
- How was the village governed? A mayor? A council of elders?
What say did the people have in who would govern them? How was
this done?
- 9.
- If you saw a village several times, did you notice any changes
in the attitude of the villagers? If so, what changed? What
caused this?
- 10.
- How do the VC treat these same
villagers? How effective is this?
Civilians
(Think of these as people in terms of Maoʼs “water” in which the
military “fish” live.)
- 1.
- What happens to civilian casualties in military actions? Are
they ignored by the troops? Left for village care? Given first
aid by troops, then left in village? Taken to military hospital
or civilian hospital? If military hospital, are they given equal
treatment to military? If civilian hospital, who pays for their
care?
- 2.
- What is attitude of Vietnamese troops towards civilians at
check points on the highway? Are the troops alert, polite but
firm? How do they check on bus passengers? On trucks? On farm
carts? Are the civilians manhandled? Are there other abuses
(collection of tolls, etc.)? If so, what remedies have been
taken? Effective? How does attitude differ among units known to
you?
- 3.
- What happens to civilians who come to a Vietnamese military
unit with complaints, problems, or questions? Does the commander
talk to them? A special officer on the staff? Are they turned
away by the guards? If there are wrongs complained about, what
redress is given? How? Do the local people hear about this?
How?
- 4.
- When a Vietnamese troop unit is transferred to a new area,
what indoctrination is given to the troops about local customs,
tabus, etc.? How is this done? How effective is it?
- 5.
- What civilian organizations help the Vietnamese military the
most? The least? In what way? How do you think this help could
be best assisted to become more effective?
- 6.
- What happens on the highways (waterways) at night? Do the
VC control? Do passenger
vehicles run? If so, how do the VC treat the passengers?
- 7.
- What are the fundamental things which the people feel are
worth defending? Their lives? Their property? Their village?
Their way of living (as opposed to the Communist way)? Their
form of government? What? Which of these are the Vietnamese
troops helping the people to defend?
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Civil Officials
(Include military acting as province chiefs or in other civilian
capacities.)
- 1.
- When the military secure an area, how good is the
follow-through by civilian officials? Who are they? Do they
follow right up on the heels of the troops? Delay? Are they
effective in dealing with the people? Do they have good
team-work with the military? What improvements can you
suggest?
- 2.
- In localities known to you personally, describe the activities
of civilian officials. Do they get out among the people? Daily?
Or remain in their offices/homes? Do they have bodyguards? Is
this necessary? Why? What is the attitude of the people towards
them? Are they invited into peoples’ homes? Only the biggest or
poor farmers/shopkeepers as well?
- 3.
- In these localities, what were the last 3 visits by officials
from Saigon? What did they come to do? Do you think they were
successful? Why? Were their contacts on mandarin terms or on the
peoples’ terms (talking down to the people, or with amicable
equality)? Do you think they really found out about the local
situation? What promises were made? What promises
fulfilled?
Propaganda
(Think of this in terms of what troops and people talk about, as well
as radio, leaflets, etc.)
- 1.
- What are the main VC propaganda
themes? In wooing popular support? Against the Vietnamese
government? Against Americans? How much of this do people
believe? What is being done to prove this propaganda
false?
- 2.
- How are the Vietnamese hitting back psychologically at the
source of enemy strength? To stop popular support? To induce
surrender? Do you believe this is effective? How would you
improve it?
Prisoners
(Identify facts known to you first-hand, and stories you have heard
from others.)
- 1.
- What happens to VC taken by a
combat unit? Are they questioned promptly for combat
intelligence? By whom? Are any of them liquidated on the spot?
Without interrogation for combat intelligence? Why? What
corrective measures are being taken? What happens to female
prisoners?
- 2.
- What happens next, after capture and initial interrogation by
the combat unit? Are they held in a compound by a military unit
known to you? Turned over to another authority? Are they
questioned further by military? How is this done? What use is
made of the information?
- 3.
- What do you know about prisoner rehabilitation? First-hand?
Hearsay? What methods are used? Do the prisoners learn a
vocation? How do they earn their freedom? Do they denounce
Communism publicly? Help the troops as scouts? Try to induce
VC surrenders? Are freed
rehabilitated prisoners turned loose on the community or sent to
a separate community of their own? Do you think this system is
effective? Why?
- 4.
- How do the VC treat prisoners?
Vietnamese military? Vietnamese civilians? Foreigners?
Troop Morale
(Candid opinions are desired.)
- 1.
- What is the attitude of the troops on patrol? Aggressive? Need
the eye of an officer on them? Have self-reliance if alone or
with small group? Do they do night patrols? In storms? Do they
really push into the jungle? Into swamps and grasslands? Into
mountains?
- 2.
- Do the troops have any strong convictions about why they are
fighting? What are they? Is there any troop I&E? Who does
it? Do you think it is effective? Any ideas on how to improve
it? What?
- 3.
- What are the feelings of troops about being in military
service? Proud to be in uniform? Indifferent? Proud of unit?
Indifferent? Homesick? Worn out? How much longer do they think
the fighting will continue? What do they think will end the
fighting?
- 4.
- Which weapons do the troops like best? Why? Which do they like
least? Why? How effective are they with these weapons?
- 5.
- What are the major gripes of the troops? Which are justified
and correctible? How? What do you know of Can Lao membership in
units you have been with? About other political membership? How
does this effect morale, promotions, preferential treatment,
attitude towards top Vietnamese government officials?
- 6.
- What are the main superstitions of the troops? What are the
main customs which are different from the military of other
countries? How widely held are these? How do they help or impair
the effectiveness of the troops?
- 7.
- How do you think the Vietnamese troops stack up in comparison
to the VC? What are the main
differences? Your ideas on why? Your ideas on how the Vietnamese
troops think they stack up against the VC? Why?
- 8.
- What are the most important points you believe your
replacement should know, for getting along with the
Vietnamese?